John Seiffer

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John Seiffer left a comment for Randy Boesche

"Hey Randy,
Flattery will get you ... I don't know, depends on what mood I'm in. Frankly I don't remember that at all - but it's been a while and I'm not into the bible anymore. Sorry for any error I propounded - even though you may not think it's in…"

John Seiffer left a comment for Michael Schiano

"Michael - your name sounds familiar too, but I can't place it . It was a long time ago. I agree most folks didn't really get out - they just changed seats. Hopefully to ones where the abuse is not so blatant but still it's a mind-fuck in my opinion."

John Seiffer left a comment for John Richeson

"Don't you hate it when your mother turns out to be right!!"

John Seiffer left a comment for Pat and Laurie Lubomski

"Sorry, I don't remember but that could be just me. There's a lot I don't remember these days.
Take Care."

John Seiffer left a comment for Kathy Stiles

"Hi Tim,
I really loved those days in Washingtonville. Looking back it seemed so pure and innocent. Too bad it was so misguided. I don't know what happened to Schlosser. But I do know that many of the people I looked up to in those days seem very…"

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Connecticut

Way Corp group(s) I was in

5th

Married or Single

Married

About Me

I got out of the way in 1986 after the infamous clergy meeting. At that time I realized I had no need for a spiritual belief based on any absolute truth. Since then I'm healthier, wealthier, and wiser - well happier anyway - I'll leave it to others to decide if I'm wiser. I consider myself a cultural jew (as I was brought up) and an atheist till proven otherwise. My apologies to anyone I led astray in those way years. Back in 2005 I posted my story on Andrew Tobias' web site. You can read it here http://www.andrewtobias.com/newcolumns/050720.html Some of you know I married Wendy Gross (10th corps) we had 2 boys - both native Texans, which is kind of strange for two jews from the north east. We split up in 1997 and I've been with Denise since 1998 (married in 2003). Denise goes by Dee and I tell people she married me for my name (say it out loud and you'll get it). We have no kids together but between us we have 5. Currently (2008) four are in college and our youngest is a high school senior. Luckily when she graduates high school, the two oldest will graduate college so it's all down hill from here.

Employment or Career

I'm an entrepreneur, business coach, and an angel investor (that means I invest in start-up companies; nothing spiritual about it). I have to thank Duke Clarke - back in the early 1980's when he was my way boss in California, he started reading business books at our leader's meetings to bring up our sales numbers, I mean PFAL numbers. Anyway I fell in love with business from then on.

Music I Like

Oldies (from 50's and 60's) especially Doo Wop. Also western swing and almost anything with a catchy tune.

Books I Like

I read mostly business books (even though most should be articles not books) and some history. Fiction I like mostly Spenser novels by Robert Parker.

Television I like

Daily Show and Colbert Report

Website 1

https://www.TheSmallBusinessCoach.com/blog

My Email Address:

john [at] sbcoach [dot] com

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IRIS JUMPER June 10, 2009 at 10:02am

would really like to get in touch with Wendy, can you help me out?
lois gueli June 10, 2009 at 4:09am

Hey John, There's Austin and then there's Texas.
FB is a way for me to have some fun with people I don't get to see often enough. Actually, some of them I never get to see.
I haven't thought about the cult for quite some time. Except for the occasional nighmares that I used to have, that I would have to go back in-residence. I recently read Passing of Patriarch. I literally was laughing out loud at different parts of it. It's so funny to think how seriously all that stuff was to people and here I am reading it in 2009 and thinking I could probably sell it to SNL.
Karl Kahler is on this site. He wrote the book "The Cult That Snapped". Haven't read the book or contacted Karl but thought you might be interested. Do you know any old ministry people living in Connecticut. We were good friends with Scott and Diane Williams and my husband still keeps in contact with Scott. They live in New Haven. I usually judge people by how well they handle it when i nonchalantly call the ministry a "cult". Somehow I don't think you'll mind. Have a good one, lois
lois gueli June 3, 2009 at 3:23am

Hi John, I just read your story on Andrew Tobias' site. Couldn't agree more! Originally from the Bronx, NY and Jewish, 8th. Corps. there were many times I wondered "what the hell am I doing here"? i was surprised to find other people on this site who thought the way I do now. It would be interesting to see the kind of response you would get if you posted your story on this site as a "blog".
My husband and I are both from the Bronx and live in Michigan for the last 20 or so years (it was our last corps assignment). My oldest daughter Allison, lives in Austin, Texas. Where do your boys live in Texas. I'm facebook friends with a couple of people on this site. I'll look to see if you're a fb person. Have a good one, lois
Randy Boesche March 19, 2009 at 11:36am

Will never forget you teaching at A Day In The Word?? on the Hebrew word, "marpe". A super lesson in why Word Studies are so needed to understand God's Will. Thanks for that...I have taught it to many others over the years and always give credit where credit's due.
Kathy Ashley January 22, 2009 at 4:27pm

You still have your sense of humor : ) That gen-yoo-ine "I don't take myself too seriously and neither should you" humble kinda thing. I always liked that about you. That and you were truly a nice guy. Fun to be around, too.

Regards,

Kathy
Eileen Davies December 15, 2008 at 1:34pm

mind fuck i agree
Michael Schiano November 26, 2008 at 7:16am

to say the least!

honestly, i can't believe anyone still plays in that sandbox. but that's just me.
Michael Schiano November 25, 2008 at 7:33am

John: I'm not sure if we knew each other in the way or not. I feel like we did, but can't pinpoint why. anyway, i read your story on andrew tobias' website. i thought it was a good perspective. your conclusion was especially well put. i'm curious to see what kind of reception you'll get around here. i've personally been surprised--and a little disappointed--to see how few of us jumped ship.

good luck!
John Richeson November 23, 2008 at 9:58am

Hey John. It would be great to hear your comments about this article and picture.

Groovy Christisans of Rye, NY article

Groovy Christisans of Rye, NY photo

Your Mom's quote is my favorite part of the whole thing.
IRIS JUMPER November 18, 2008 at 11:36am

Hi John I seem to be having a problem getting a message to you. Any how this is my 3rd. try. Wendy and I were best buds in the Way I would love to connect with her again . Can you help?. As one cultural Jew to another I would also like to share with you just how hebrew the entire bible really is. And I do mean all of "the new testement"

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