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  Ric Cox February 28, 2011 at 4:29am

  In Texas, if it is 95 degrees and the sun is bearing down on you, there are only a few choices.  Find a river or water hole or put something on your head to shade it.  I would not suggest a thong.  Probably boxers or briefs would suffice if the situation calls for such an improvation.

   

  A smart Texans always has a hat at least as a choice.  A ball cap is just as good as most options and is always preferred.  Now there is an Australian outfitter here in the San Antonio area which has an Australian hat.  I can't find his site right now.  But he has a hat called a 'foldaway'.   It's leather and you can fold it up and put it in your gene back pocket.  Looks something like what you find on this site.  http://www.amazon.com/Barmah-Foldaway-Australian-Leather-Hickory/dp...
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  Frank Abissi February 26, 2011 at 1:39pm

  You have to realize that I work in a "recreational" setting as a mountain guide. My clients as far as I am concerned are my only priority. If  i wasn't a hard ass every peak I've gone to would see me forfeiting my ascents with my clients to help someone else get up them. If people aren't prepared on an optional outing they shouldn't expect someone else to be prepared for them.

   

  I don't know what I would do in a full blown forced survival situation. I would give to him that needeth but I would do so at the point of need, not in the anticipation of someones need.

   

  Underwear for a hat? I just think wearing a man thong that way is wrong on so many levels
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  Ric Cox February 26, 2011 at 12:37pm

  Wow.  You sound like either a hard ass or the smartest person in the woods.  I vote for pretty smart.  The environment must be a consideration when deciding who and if to help someone unprepared.  For instance in Texas, we might help someone with a snack but you ain't taking my gloves or hat....especially in winter for gloves and summer for a hat.  Take off your socks and use 'em as mittens.

  or take off your underwear and use 'em for a hat.  But touch my hat and you may be looking for a first aid kit.
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  Ric Cox February 26, 2011 at 12:26pm

  That face was the exact look.  After the look he figured out I was acting an he had that little grin that made him look like a parent understanding why the kids thought it was ok to play in the rain.

   

  I often run across situations when a person is having a problem with a cash register or computer and I make the statement, "Maybe it's the plate in my head."  which is better and kinder than saying, "Maybe it's the plate in your head."
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  Frank Abissi February 25, 2011 at 6:15pm

  I've been in the mountains have seen people unprepared so many times it's frightening. A few years back I was climbing a 20,000 foot peak and at base camp one morning There was an idiot on the rope team ahead of us that was wearing jeans and a Carhaart jacket. when we passed them two hours later we watched as this guy was being helped down hypothernic and frostbitten. I guess his cotton gloves were no match for -20F and 30 mile an hour winds. I understand he lost a few fingers.

   

  I just won't go with anyone unprepared, When I come across someone unprepared, call me heartless but I don't give up any of my gear for them. If you are going out into an enviroment where preparation is required you had better be so or else prepare yourself to accept the consequences of your situation. I give all my clients a list of what they need to have before any trip and when we leave I check to make sure they have everything. Anything they are missing I make sure they get before we ever touch the mountains.

   

  It's important to not risk your life for their lack of preparation. If I was in a situation where I was unprepared I would not expect anyone to come to my aid. (of course if someone did i wouldn't turn them away)

   

  BTW, was a down filled loin cloth on the MAL list?
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  Ric Cox February 25, 2011 at 11:03am

  Dr. also said, "It's a walk".  I have not actually began gathering anything.  I'm simply looking at the writing on the wall.  Some of it is foolishness, but some of it indicates what the Adversary would like to do.  Proverbs 4:7  says,

  " Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding." 

   

  As for helping someone not prepared, that will be dependent on the situation and to some degree, the person.  God has to be involved with that decision.  That is why we went through the Advanced Class....so we would be able to recognize the times when God is and isn't giving us direction.  
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  Janis Lang Johnson February 24, 2011 at 6:12pm

  Richard, You are a trip.  "I have more fun than most people"  I have moved so many times since 14th Corps days.  I have none of it.  I wasn't even allowed to keep my sweats.  Didn't even get my money back.  Oh well, who cares.

   

  I have a Leatherman utility tool.  I am of the opinion, and this is just me.  God will let me know what I need when I need it.  He has never failed to do so in 46 years (Igot born again at age 5).  He would never leave any of His Children unprepared. If I need a sleeping bag He'll tell me, if I need boots, He'll tell me.

   

  You have fun on your gathering journey.  And remember just because Dr said if you come across someone not prepared and you don't have enough to share, don't"  remember he said that?  Well, God said if it is within your power you give. 

   

  However, I will be fully equipt, so if we meet in the woods somewhere, don't eat yellow snow!

   

   
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  Donaldo Muniz February 24, 2011 at 5:22am

  .32 calibre is small enough for Opossum, Muscrat and Beaver and big slightly bigger critters is you're a good shot! If your a BETTER shot maybe a rabbit. It's alot of stuff, I know... I walked a couple of blocks with it and it wasn't too comfortable. But adrenaline and sheer stick-to-it-tiveness will see you through. IF I have time I'll throw my Taurus Compact PT145 .45 calibre but the ammo is so heavy that it definitely cumbersome for "bugging out". I keep my ALL 9 ALL DA TIME armament sharpened ALL the time. The 1962 Boy Scout Manual is like a Survival Guide written for a 5th grader. And in a Stressful Situation you want to have Survival Instruction in as simple a language as possible. ALL PRAISE TO GOD THE FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO HAS SEATED US ABOVE ALL PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS! That was just a little shout out to my Poppa God, y'all!
  
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  Donna Hobbs Schleicher February 24, 2011 at 4:29am

  Donald, What's in the 1962 Boy Scout manual? I grew up in Texas and none of these things sound that crazy to me, HA!

  Have you met the believers in Puerto Rico? My daughter lived there doing the study abroad program last year. Janice and Ricardo and all the WONDERFUL believers were so incredibly great to her!!! They really love God and His Word!
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  David & Linda (Smith) Scovel February 24, 2011 at 1:49am

  Donald,

  That's quite a trailer full. I can see why you call it the "Bug out bag", cuz your eyes be buggin out carryin it. LOL! But seriously you sound prepared. Tinnie here I come!

  .32's are great for when the psychos from the cities try to lift what ain't theirs but a .22 is so much more practical for day to day varmint hunting and you can carry up to twice the ammo for the same weight. Almost got a Berretta FSB .22 out of an estate in CA last month for cheap, but some guy beat me to it. Don't forget the Armed services improvised munitions manual. A great storehouse of treason. The ALL 9 is still your best bet for survival. The right place at the right time, walking by the spirit...lo shanta MAL ika sitaaa......