How God has and can work with us

[Steve Jaynes]

Does God have to instigate signs, miracles and wonders or can believers by seeing a need and wanting to help start to operate a manifestation? As we read records of signs, miracles, and wonders, in the Bible from the Old Testaments through the Gospels an even in the book of act and the epistles we can see very clearly when men and women got the Word from God as what to do. Here is a small sample of verses.KJV 1 Kings 17:1-13 And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, As the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word. And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, Get thee hence, and turn thee eastward, and hide thyself by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.This is clearly at Gods instructions. God told Elijah what to say, where to go, and how to do what he was to do, step by step. God worked with Gideon the same way, step by step.KJV Judges 7:2 And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against me, saying, Mine own hand hath saved me.KJV Judges 7:4 And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.If you were to read the whole record about Gideon you would see that God talk and told him what to do and how to do it all the way through. The same is true of Jeremiah.KJV Jeremiah 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,KJV Jeremiah 1:13 And the word of the LORD came unto me the second time, saying, What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north.KJV Jeremiah 2:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying,This goes on throughout the book of Jeremiah. But does God have to give people word by word instruction as what to do? Has God given authority to some by way of spirit? If God says that you have the power and authority to heal does God have to tell you again? What about all the manifestations?At different times in the Bible God has had to work with people differently because of what was available to mankind spiritual and what the different people could believe. In the Old Testament period of time a relatively small amount of people had spirit available to them and they had different levels of believing and sometimes different levels of spirit. Elisha had more spirit than Elijah. In the Scriptures we can read about the different criteria that are needed for operating different manifestation. Like ‘speaking in tongues’ can be operated at any time in your private pray life or in a believers meeting if interpreted. ‘Prophecy’ is operated in a believer meeting also. All the other manifestation have their criteria also and can be searched out by reading what the Scriptures say. In my book “How to Read the Bible for Understanding and Power” I go through this very thoroughly. But for now I just want to say that God has given us power and authority to help others. Like Jesus said “freely you received freely give.” Elisha asked for and received a double portion of spirit.KJV 2 Kings 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.When I read the Scriptures I see a big difference between these to men, Elijah and Elisha. One man whom God told what and how to do everything (today we would call it being micromanaged). The other man who just walked out believing in his authority and power. In his double portion of spirit. Today it would be like a man who had the authority over a group of people doing a job. He would just tell people what he wanted done and they would do it because he has the authority to do so. Much like the centurion had.KJV Matthew 8:5-10 And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him, And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented. And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him. The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed. For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.Jesus marvelled at his mans believing and his understanding of authority. There is much to learn about our authority.(On my web site I have recorded a teaching series that I call “Following Dominion, Power and Authority through the Scriptures” In this series we look at some of the dominion, power and authority that believers had throughout the Bible starting with Adam to some of the Old Testament believers to the Gospel period on to what Jesus commissioned on to us. I found it very interesting to follow and plenty of learning about how God has and can work with us.)Go to 1 Samuel, Chapter 17. I want to show you this record of David and Goliath, in chapter 17, verse 26. I suggest you read this entire chapter sometime in your leisure and get really blessed. I just want to point out some things here.1 Samuel 17:26 And David spake to the men that stood by him, saying, What shall be done to the man that killeth this Philistine, and taketh away the reproach from Israel? for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?Goliath was standing up and saying “I defiled the armies of the living God. You find a man that will come fight me.” That’s what he was saying. He was very big and tall and strong man. Everybody was afraid of him and he was defiling the armies of the living God. In fact he was defying God. David says, you remember David was just a boy at this time, who is going to fight this guy? What David was saying was that Goliath is defying the living God, “who is this uncircumcised?” We would call him something else, we call him an unbelieving so and so. And in verse 27, he says.1 Samuel 17:27-28 And the people answered him after this manner, saying, So shall it be done to the man that killeth him. And Eliab his eldest brother heard when he spake unto the men; and Eliab's anger was kindled against David, and he said, Why camest thou down hither? and with whom hast thou left those few sheep in the wilderness? I know thy pride, and the naughtiness of thine heart; for thou art come down that thou mightest see the battle.David was standing up for God and saying, “Who can stand against God?” The older brother says, “You be quiet. You little brat, you are the youngest one, what do you know. You should be home taking care of the sheep. So you shut your mouth.” That’s what he was saying to him. But David is saying, “Hey, who is going to believe God?” God can take care of Goliath. In verse 29 it says.1 Samuel 17:29 And David said, What have I now done? Is there not a cause?David said, “What have I done. Is there not a cause? Is there not a reason for someone to believe God here? This guy is defiling the armies of the living God. God is real.” That’s what David is saying. God is real.1 Samuel 17:30And he turned from him toward another, and spake after the same manner: and the people answered him again after the former manner.What is David doing? He is speaking it into being. God is not going to let David’s words fall to the ground, because David is standing for God. David is saying God will do this. God is that big. How much believing in God do you have? None of these people had any. In reading this whole record you would see that Goliath yelled and threatened the people for forty days. Goliath came for forty days, yelling at the people. David gets there one day and says, “Did everyone forget God here?” That’s what he is saying. Did you forget God?You know something; we have Goliaths in our lives. We at times may have big opportunities and problems that we have to face. Some of them are very big, very dangerous, very life threatening. Like diseases, sickness, financial problems, relationship problems, and very dangerous weather problems. Just think what goes on in people’s lives. Is God big enough to take care of them? Well David, who trusted in God’s power to deliver, took care of Goliath all right. Look at verse 45.1 Samuel 17:45-46Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied. This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.David is speaking it into being. He is saying and confessing, “this day God’s going to bring it to pass, and I will smite thee and I will take thy head from thee and I will give the carcass of the host of Philistine this day unto the fowls of the air and to the wild beasts of the earth that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.” God can bring to pass the impossible as we believe in God’s care for us. David knew and believed in God’s power and God’s might. He knew it wasn’t in his own ability but he knew that with God with him he couldn’t lose.As I search the Scriptures I see that at times how God has worked with people like one would micromanage others (guiding them all the way) and at other times believers knew their power and authority as it is written in the Word and just acted and spoke it and brought deliverance to themselves and others. What power we have if we only knew it! Let’s get our examples from the Word.May God Bless You, AbundantlySteve

[Janet Gause(Orlando)]

Steve, I was very blessed with your comments. I've been looking at the same things for quite a while and I have become even more convinced that we just cannot put God in a box,even though man seems to be destined to try. I really think its just the old "wanting to be the most high thing" if you know what I mean. After all it says "let him that gloryeth glory in this, that he UNDERSTANDETH and KNOWETH me. It does'nt say "controlleth me'.

[Kathy Ashley]

"It's not what the right Reverend so and so says! It's not even what I VPW say! It's what does God's Word say,
what does God's Word's say?!!!

He also taught us to make God's Word our own. It was never his desire for the Corps to keep being spoonfed all of their lives. I think s-o-o-o much pain, confusion, division, sorrow and lot of subsequent wrong doctrine could have been avoided had more people listened to and acted on that instruction alone.

Bless your heart Steve, for endeavoring to stay faithful to God's Word, to keep learning and to keep teaching.

[Steve Jaynes]

Dr. W. teaching was the best teacher I have ever heard. One of the things that got me looking more into believers who walked with power is what Dr. W. said about the class "Living Victoriously" "how the class goes beyond the Advance Class. I just think that there is great learning from the records of these people who walked with the power of God. It does not matter what I say. The important thing is what does the Word say. Dr.W. taoght me that.

[John Richeson]

I love the story of David & Goliath. One of the best teachings I ever heard in my life was Dr. W. teaching that record to us little group of WOW's in 1974 in Erie, PA. It was the best rendetion of that account I have ever heard anyhwere. Like him or not he was a masterful teacher. This record was perfect for his delivery style. We all loved it and were inspired and were better people for it.

[Dan Haas]

Thanks, Steve. Faith is a big deal. As children of the living God, we are part of that story beginning in Genesis. As partners (junior partners, it should be said) with God, working with Him, we are participants in His mighty works!