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Dream, dream, dream...

Okay, I decided to do a blog post on this here, Way Corps site, not particularly because something is heavy on my heart, for that may surely scare people away---but, maybe moreso because I'm amped on some late evening caffiene and feel the need to write down some of my long-term repercussions of having been an in-residence Way Corps trainee...As my profile states, I'm a member of the 9th corps, meaning that I graduated in 1981,...or more than 27 years ago...I was 24 when I received that blessed Associate of Theology Degree...So, now, what about dreaming?...I'm thinking of the kind of dreaming you do when you sleep,...where you are in a strange but familiar world, where you are not in total control of your thoughts and emotions, where a most confusing compilation of persons, places and things talk to your inner,sleeping self,...causing you to wake up and wonder just what the heck that dream was all about...Just where is a good interpreter of dreams when you need 'em, anyhow?...Okay, so in the 27 years since I graduated the Way Corps, I've had that occasional (be it monthly, quarterly or annually) dream that I am back in residence in the way corps...No, I'm not 24 again...I am who I am today with an odd mixture of people in an odder place, taking part in an even odder activity---all while being back in-residence Way Corps...The other day I had one of these dreams of being back in-residence...It seemed like everybody whom I had ever known my entire life was there as well...I don't remember the place---but it was huge...Bigger than the BRC, bigger than top floor Wierwille---maybe even bigger than the main Rock of Ages tent...Everybody was there, and there must have been some kind of a teaching going on...There where lots and lots of people sitting in front of me as well as behind me...I seemed to know them all, or at least, remember them all...I'm not sure what was being taught, or shared, and who was orating, in fact, I was chattering and goofing off with those sitting near me...Then, at a given moment in my dream, out of all that crowd of people, I was asked to read a little section from the book I had in my lap...At first, I wasn't sure if it was the Bible and I was asked to read a verse of scripture, but in a few moments the sound of thousands of turning pages became a dead silence with the exception of me frantically flipping through my book, desperately trying to find the citation I was asked to read...How come everybody else knows where this is, but me?...It must have been a book of the Bible---an easy one to find, like Genesis or Psalms---you know, the one in the middle of your Bible...There was total silence---no snickering or murmuring or throat-clearing or coughing...What could I do?...Why doesn't somebody else say something---change the subject---move on?....Help out an old alter boy,here...I stood up, asked the few rows of people behind me if they could at least tell me what page the citation was on...Several people responded with several different page numbers because we all had different editions of the Book...I sat down and started turning pages again in stoned silence...But my pages weren't numbered, they were lettered---and not in alphabetical order...I had no idea where to find what I'm looking for...Still, everybody, including the teacher waited...and waited...Now, I forgot what it was I was supposed to read...This is getting re-e-eal embarrassing...Do I now stand up and say, "I'm sorry, folks, it seems that I've forgotten the order of the Books of the Bible"...Dammit, I shoulda faked that I had laryngitus so I could have avoided this...So now, everybody in the world whom I ever met is in-residence in the Way Corps and here I am the only person who doesn't know the books of the Bible....I've been outed...They're onto me...What a dirty trick...I'm not gonna hang around and drink coffee and mingle when this is over...Wait a minute....When is this gonna be over?...I'm thinking about all of this and they're all still waiting for me to read a verse of scripture out of the Bible...Gawd, these people are patient...This is never going to end....They're not going to let me off the hook...They're all stubborn and I'm getting more humiliated by the minute...Screw this...I'm waking my ass up and going to work...
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  • Hey Joe! Perhaps someone slipped a "mickey" in your cup of coffee last night!...Oh yea!... this dream that is reoccuring..is Tim Graves sitting next to you? And another thing! Is Dick Denenno and Eddie Lemos present and "sharing their hearts" durning this dream? Just wondering!
  • Joe. What immediately came to mind was that it was your book you were to read from. Everyone else had their own. What is Christ in you? Is it a book full of page numbers and chapters that everyone reads from? Or is it a living thing within? Is it God within? Or is it another man from outside within?

    You couldn't find the page they were turning to because their books were their own...just like yours was your own. Christ in you is a personal thing, not a group compliance thing. In my opinion, which is limited to my own perceptions of study and life experience, what your dream means to me is this:

    Never confine your SELF, the Christ in you, by the expectation of others. In your dream, it was not their impatience, but your own according to an expected feeling of compliance. One of the very cool Greek text studies I did for Rom. 10:9, 10 showed very clearly that I am not to believe in my heart that God raised Jesus from the dead (physically). Rather the Greek words are clear in their accuracy and preciseness that "The God awakened as from sleep self from the state of the dead."

    These bodies we live in are temporary. They are shaped by education and experience to believe that is all we are. We were fortunate in the Way to learn that mankind's experience can be spiritual, soulful and bodily.
    If it were my dream, I would draw the conclusion that Christ in me would be telling me to not be constrained by the bodily experience. As Paul wrote, we should not be con-formed to this physical reality, the cosmos in which mankind is the center. Rather, we are to be meta-formed (metamorphosis) by the up-newing of our minds (spirit/mental).

    Meta is an interesting preposition, one of several which mean "with." It is with in association, unlike sun, sum or sus which are different forms of with in accordance to the whole set. Sun, sum and sus represent that all the elements have the same properties and relationships as the set is ONE.

    Meta can touch another set, but does not enter within it to become a sun, sum and sus, which imply compliance with the set. It is not compliance with other bodies that up-new us. It is the touching association with the Christ within that does.

    There is no book that can do that. No religious sect able to accomplish it. The Bible was written to represent a process not a compliance.

    Personally, I would stop trying to read from everyone else's books.
  • "Ask God what it is He wants you to be accountable for and then go do it".

    I too have had this dream. Therefore, I shall "go and do thou likewise". Thank you Karen for your indepth spiritual perception and awareness. And Joe, you are so brave to have hung yourself out here like this. Your being honeest like this will no doubt help untold thousands who have had this similar need, but were too ascaird to reveal their fear before all. And remember Joe, fear is nothing more than "False Evidence Appearing Rill". Well, "Real". I wrote it that way so that Ronnie Wallace would understand it because he says "rill" when he says "real". I wonder what he sounds like now with an Aussie accent mixed in there? But I digress. I am going now to go and do thou likewise...
  • Wow.....
  • Joe, I do dream interpretation, although I call it dream revelation. There are some folks who put this in the category of tongues with interpretation... I can't say I agree but God does put some things together for me when people share their dreams with me.

    The reunion is the return. You will not be called upon to perform. You have been saved by grace, there is nothing you could do to get it except believe unto and then it was still His perogative to give it to you, which He did.

    You will have to give account, however, for what you have done with that saving grace.

    Perhaps God is asking you what you want to do with that saving grace.

    That you were fooling around and not paying attention is what you think of yourself, you think you really haven't done much for Him and have been goofing off. That may or may not be real, you will have to ask God for His assessment, and quit putting your own ideas above His.

    That you were more concerned with what everyone else around you were thinking and not what the Lord was thinking, I would deal with the fear of man in your heart. Ask forgiveness and move on. Then ask God what He wants you to be doing now that you have salvation, and go do it.

    Noone else could tell you what page you were on because they have different scriptures they are accountable for, and straight up, if you want the real answers you gotta ask God, not man.

    You might want to ask forgiveness for wanting to give up, we always want to give up when we go to man for anything because man didn't save us and doesn't have the right to judge us or to provide for us. Only God is the endless supply.

    Ask God what it is He wants you to be accountable for and then go do it.

    I believe God is knocking on your door, my friend.

    many blessings, Karen
  • Great observation Susan! You appear to be a "perfect" candidate for our ongoing study of the "likes" of a person who has bin' tormented as Mr Kriston has.

    If an interest has bin' provoked and you wish to proceed in further studies please send me:
    1. Your resume... included IE your education and anything regarding your education
    2. Include the names of 8 people who feel you would profit from further studies on this subject
    3. A list of non-profit organization's you give money to and the amount you gave, year ending '08
    4. A check to me for $105,985.95

    Send all of the above to:
    The Institute/Studies of Knucklebutts
    PO Box 16987
    Ann Arbor, Michigan,MI. 34567

    I anticipate the money...Opps, I mean...your response
  • Having guilt that has been repressed?
  • Hello Mr.Joe Kriston, noted dream analyser, Dr. Crowell here! I have for the past few years, been approached by a number of...Well!...not only 9th Corps, but other Corps who have likewise dreamed the dream you are pondering.

    Mr Kriston!...before I begin I want to assure you I have the credentals, having recently along with Jon Nessle, Dan McConahy, Frank Mannaserri and others all received our doctrate from "Miss Cleo"...you might remember her and the controversy that ensued regarding her...some calling her a "fake".

    May I proceed?...Thank you!...On the weekend of Feburary 13, 2009, I and a host of others will convene in Salt Lake City, Utah... IE Johnnie Ruiz, Billy Britt, Bill Fury, the aforementioned recipents of their doctrate in "Dreams and Dream Disorders" and discuss this reoccuring dream not only you are having but by countless others on this site.

    Mr Kriston! I would like to give you a brief interpretation, but before I proceed I will need you to transfer to my Chase bank acct, routing number AZ-9998714, the amount of $768,987.67. Perhaps this is a bit to much for you at the moment but for me to proceed the monies need to be received by 1/19/09 to begin "the healing" not only with you but countless others.

    Please keep me advised, Dr Crowell Phd. Lcd, Stp, Mci
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